We like to think of it
as selling property should be Risk-Free.
We like to think of it as
property management should be 24/7.
We like to think of it
as selling property should be Risk-Free.
We like to think of it as
property management should be 24/7.
No Sale, No Fee
If your property doesn’t sell, you don’t pay any fee – it’s as simple as that. We’re not just your guide or your agent, we’re your partners in real estate. Wouldn’t you rather have a partner rather than just an advocate?
We pre-qualify buyers
Opening up your home to strangers is a big deal and we know how it feels to cope with unserious buyers. Our process of pre-qualifying potential buyers helps us to connect you with the best fit buyers.
We’re available 24/7
When we say we’re available 24/7, we mean that literally. Have a question or need to speak to a real human right away? Call our Hotline at 03 98 133 133 – when it suits YOU.
Large and growing database of buyers
Our growing list of qualified buyers includes local, regional and international real estate investors, all looking for the next ideal property deal.
We specialise in private negotiation
For many of our clients, privacy and discretion are the key components of any successful negotiation. Beyond what you’d expect from a traditional agency, we go above and beyond to protect your confidentiality.
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Thank you Simon and Haim Real Estate sold our home in 9 days
"Haim Real Estate in Camberwell achieved an outstanding result for my property. Throughout the process, he went above and beyond to keep it as painless as possible. He sold it privately in a very short time, without advertising and associated costs and without open for inspections. After the sale, his follow-up in liaising with the conveyancer and the purchaser has been outstanding. It has been an absolute pleasure to deal with Andrew and I could not recommend him more highly."Elizabeth HowattLenne Court, Camberwell
"Tony and Tom delivered as promised - both in price and time frame. Both were tough but fair negotiators. We had never heard about HAIM before and in fact, we personally knew of 4 well-known agents we were considering choosing after we finished repairs and paint work around the house. When we got Tony's letter we were curious about what HAIM could do for us so we called him in for a very informal and chat. Tony found us a genuine buyer in a week and he got us $200,000 more than we expected, all privately and without any stress or fuss.
I spent nothing on advertising and furthermore saved on time and effort for repair work I would have otherwise had to do."Cam & Pam JohnstoneHilltop Ave, Glen Iris
"Really happy with the result, stress-free and private. Thanks so much Tony!"Kevin & HeatherDryden Street, Canterbury
"We sold our family home of 75 years with Haim Real Estate and found Tom to be nothing short of amazing. Nothing was too much trouble, he got the price we wanted, quickly and with no fuss. He took in account the fact that we were struggling to sell the family home, took baby steps with us and was as excited as us when we sold."Tina & Harold GentTattenham St, Caulfield East
"As a vendor who was not keen to sell by auction but obviously wanted to maximise the sale price of my property, I enlisted the services of Haim Real Estate after meeting with their representative Simon Lee. I was impressed by his enthusiasm and knowledge of the market but knew that he would work as hard as possible to achieve a favourable outcome. Throughout the negotiation process, Simon was in constant contact with me and was a delight to deal with.
I have no hesitation in strongly recommending both Simon Lee and Haim Real Estate."Duncan LeckieBelmore Rd, Balwyn North
Based on 79 reviews
Haim Real Estate
06:13 02 Oct 19
Thanks Simon for your professional work throughout the sales. We are glad that we are able to settle fast and with a good price. Thanks again!!
07:00 08 Sep 19
Tom has delivered in the best possible way at each stage of letting out our apartment in Camberwell.
02:03 31 Aug 19
Thanks Simon and the HAIM team for helping us find our dream home. Your honesty and strait forward approach made us feel comfortable and you went out of your way to find all the answers to our questions. Thanks!
06:18 15 May 19
No Sale No Fee" is the bestI would like to take this opportunity of sincerely saying "Thank You" to Mr Frank Li and Haim Real Estate for getting my property sold with smooth and stress-free process and with the price we are happy with.We had been talking with different local real estate regarding my property sale. None of them could give us enough confidence at the current declining market and they charge expensive marketing fees regardless the property is sold or not.Then, one of our friends recommends Frank Li from Haim Real Estate with "NO SALE NO FEE" services. At the beginning, we doubted whether it is too good to believe. After we had an interview with Frank Li, we believe he is the right agent we should be engaged in, because he is extremely professional in relation to real estate and very familiar with our area plus he is a honest person providing and analyzing for us with each of the most recent comparable sales. During the period of campaign, he was with us every step of the way and instantly give us buyer's feedbacks on time and analyze each of the buyers who would be the most serious one we need to target on. His exclusive negotiation skill is second to none and finally we get the price we are happy with.Thank you again Frank li and Haim. We do not hesitate to recommend you to someone else wanting to sell.
10:09 27 Mar 19
Wanted to sell my apartment in a tough market, one local agent didn't bother contacting me back, another made contact but the overall selling fees would be close to double. Tom from Haim made a quick contact and wasted no time in making an appointment. Evaluation was in a couple of days, in the current apartment market had to be realistic about the price. Their, selling fee was very reasonable, well half of what the other local agent was going to charge. Agreed with the selling contract with them. They organised the photos and marketing in a flash. Constant updates on the progress and inspections.Apartment was sold on the first weekend, even got the price that I wanted. All up just over 5 weeks from signing the contract with them to settlement
05:45 25 Mar 19
We were in the market to purchase a new home and approached Haim real estate to assist us. Simon was very helpful to us showing us a number of properties to assist us in our purchase. We found him to be very honest and realistic in relation to the current market as well as being extremely helpful. I would recommend making contact with him if you are interested in purchasing a property.
04:57 23 Feb 19
I'm renting out my property with haim real estate, they are very efficient, they found a tenant which meet my requirements just in one week, I have been satisfied with the service provided.
10:51 22 Jan 19
i was wanting to sell my home when things were getting harder,.... i saw a couple of agents who didn't give me alot of hope or inspire me, but i was lucky , i found a flyer in my letter box for Haim Real Estate so decided to give them a call, from the first meeting with Frank Li he was enthusiastic and gave me great confidence that i would get my home sold. He is a diligent and very hard worker, was in contact almost daily and bringing people in to view my home always checking if the time was right for me , as i wanted to do it privately not auction that was no problem to them and i was amazed at how well and from my point of view smoothly it went. Frank went above and beyond what i thought a real estate would do offering help in every stage of the process, i have no hesitation in highly recommending this professional, enthusiastic and friendly company and Frank Li in particular.
08:27 30 Nov 18
We would like to congratulate Simon Lee and thank him for the sale of our property. It was only a short campaign, about six weeks in length and during that time Simon displayed a level of professionalism that is to be commended. At all times Simon responded to our queries and requirements promptly and efficiently. He always kept us informed of any progress and his reporting was competent, to the point and down to earth. Simon is a competent, friendly and very helpful. Again, thank you for all your hard work and especially for all your support during the sale of the property. Olga and Vlado
07:28 14 Sep 18
Simon Lee from Haim sold my property after a year on the market. Simon worked hard to sell my property and I am sure his calm demeanor and professional attitude was the reason I received a great price and a fair deal. Thanks Simon good luck to you and yours.
14:23 25 Aug 18
No issues with these guys. Their rental department is very good, we are very happy with their service
03:17 31 Jul 18
Jason from Haim Real Estate is an absolute superstar! Took great care of us from start to finish on selling of our family home even going above and beyond to ensure we got price promised. He is an absolute honest and hardworking professional always putting his clients needs first. Very happy dealing with Haim Real Estate and highly recommend engaging this company, Jason and team for selling or buying your property in the future.
16:55 21 Jul 18
We first met Simon when buying our new residence. He made an immediate impression on us as a person very committed to the Real Estate profession but without the usual pushy pressure that you expect from Sales Agents having dealt with many over the years.We liked Simon's approach so we decided to appoint him to sell our house. We sat down and listened to his assessment of our property & he listened to our expectation.Simon won us over with his sincerity and not the usual outlandish claims that you often get told when selling a property, and he delivered in spades.Four days later our Property was Sold in a time when the Market was slowing down and we were thinking that it could take a month or so to sell. First couple through loved our home and bought it !We would have no hesitation in recommending Simon to any future Sellers.Debra & Vic
15:04 28 Jun 18
This is a letter of the highest recommendation for Mr. Simon Lee, who went above and beyond in order to sell our property after 7 years again!Simon was helpful and showed great enthusiasm in using his extensive knowledge of the current property market in order to close a deal in 5 days which another agent couldn't sell our home on the Auction day.Simon conducted himself with great integrity and was always available to answer any questions or queries with the highest standard of professionalism.We were very happy with his service and more than happy with the outcome.We have no hesitation in recommending Simon to anyone looking for the same service that was provided to us.Thank you,Zoltan & Zsuzsanna
14:46 28 Jun 18
Simon Lee was an absolute pleasure to deal with and went above and beyond to ensure we secured the house of our dreams. His directness, honesty, and professionalism made the buying experience easier and we would highly recommend Simon and Haim Real Estate to any potential vendors and buyers.Carolina and Alfred Mosticone
05:28 17 May 18
(Translated by Google) A good real estate intermediary service agency, the biggest feature is "prices are reliable, quick to sell" both the seller and the buyer are satisfied. Another feature is that "the house does not sell, it does not charge other fees." Good friends recommend each other.(Original)一家不错的房产中介服务机构，最大的特点就是“价格靠谱，出手快”卖方和买方都满意。另一个特点就是“房子不卖出，是不收其他费用的”。好朋友之间都在互相推荐呢。
04:35 02 May 18
Trust, is the word that came to mind when engaging with Haim Real Estate. Thank you Jason, for your hard work and services to achieve a desired outcome for everyone.
08:15 30 Apr 18
My husband and I have had the pleasure of meeting Simon Lee several years ago. Our experience then was great, and we were fortunate to establish a strong relationship with Simon. We decided to sell our home and we were very happy that Simon was available to take on our listing even though we are not in the vicinity of the Camberwell office. To Simon’s credit and word, and our total amazement, Simon sold our home in only 5 days. Incredible! Thank you Simon for your outstanding work and dedication to our listing. I would thoroughly recommend Simon to anyone who is considering selling their home. Outstanding Agent and just a really nice guy too! Julia LB
11:09 26 Apr 18
A real estate agent has to satisfy the vendor, but the really good ones realise that they do that better by also satisfying the potential purchaser. Jason Ramov is one such real estate agent. He went out of his way to help my wife and me in our quest to purchase an apartment, and the result was a very satisfied purchaser.
06:54 28 Nov 17
08:58 08 Oct 17
Tom acted on behalf of my wife Margaret and her family to sell their elderly mothers home. Although l was hesitant because Tom was not a major player in the Bentleigh area, he was absolutely professional, thorough and timely in keeping the family informed at all times. I would recommend you meet Tom and consider him for your sale.
05:15 06 Sep 17
I bought a property from haim the sales representative Simon Lee was extraordinary very professionalMake my husband and I a wonderful experience in purchase our first home His good advice and negotiation let us no hesitate to purchase this wonderful home.Good job Haim real estate to have a wonderful stuff working for you, defenetily we will recomend you guys with family and friends and I give you 5 starts keep the good work.Thank u
09:13 21 Jul 17
Simon Lee, In regards to the sale of my parents property, it was an easy process due to the assistance and professionalism shown by Simon.Always available to assist in all areas, words can't define his willingness to help and explain all facets of the sale as well as assisting us with negotiating in the purchase of my parents new home.Having assisted my family for the past month, and personally having spoken with Simon on numerous occasions I can only conclude he is an asset to the establishment of HAIM REAL ESTATE
01:26 15 Jul 17
I bought my property through Haim Real Estate. Tom was a pleasure to deal with and made the process very simple.
06:13 11 Jul 17
The Team at Hiam Real estate, were Professional and Patient with us as buyers leaving us feeling, well cared for, Tom and the team went above and beyond what was needed in assisting us with our purchase, including private opens and extra time when needed. I would not hesitate to recommend that anyone looking to buy or sell should speak with Hiam Real Estate first. Thank you Tom.
07:02 10 Jul 17
We would like to thank Tom and Haim Real Estate for helping to sell our home of 20 years and achieving good result for us. Really happy. We strongly recommend them.
02:06 07 Jul 17
Simon Lee found us a buyer very quickly and maintained an excellent level of communication during the process. He was always available to discuss any queries, and was courteous and pleasant at all times.I would certainly recommend him to any potential vendor.
10:28 04 Jul 17
Tom Tang 推荐。 无论是买家还是卖家都希望有快速，有效，真诚的沟通。来自 Kenmare St.Mont Albert
10:22 04 Jul 17
5 Star Service. A dynamic communicator- Tom Tang . from Balwyn Road
09:08 04 Jul 17
Great buying experience through Haim Real Estate!!! Tom and Jason showed us the house as many times we wanted, always answering phone calls and fast response to emails and queries. Fully recommended!
13:41 30 Jun 17
Simon was delightful to deal with and made the whole experience for us stress free and seemless.Our property was on the market for only a short period of time and Simons private sale approach ensured no invasion of our privacy and full transparency.We were thrilled with the result.Simons advice and guidance during the sale period was most appreciated and very beneficial.Highly recommend Simon if your thinking of selling.Thank you Simon
10:30 14 Jun 17
We have been looking for houses for couple of months already. Finally we got everything sorted with Simon! We will definitely recommend him.
14:53 23 May 17
Thank you for Simon Lee and HAIM Real Estate sold my property. I'm surprised on his work as two local agencies couldn't get me the price and Simon achieved it for me!! He's extremely hard working and reply my call and email even at mid-night and keep me updated during the progress, I haven't seen an agent like him. I will recommend to all seller in Melbourne. Don't worry about he's not the local agent, his experience and his working style will make you happy at the end!
13:12 11 May 17
We are so impressed with effectiveness and dedication of the company staff. Simon from Haim Real Estate went out of his way to meet with both seller and buyer in their convenience as many times as was required, making sure that both sides' requirements are met. The result: unconditional contract is signed in record time.Highly recommend Haim Real Estate for their market understanding and professional approach.
12:38 11 May 17
I would recommend Simon Lee to anyone with great confidence. I didn't think that I would sell my property as quick as I did well within a week, but Simon pushed through and delivered for a fair price.
05:17 19 Apr 17
My experience with Simon Lee purchasing our property was fantastic to say the least. Simon is truly professional and considerate in dealing with our queries, inspections and contract negotiation. My suggestion to any potential buyer/seller is : let them do the job, they will surly exceed your expectation and surprise you with their efficiency and professionalism. Go ahead and don't look back.
03:08 24 Mar 17
Simon Lee is an excellent estate agent. I have been dealing with Simon for many years now. His knowledge and expertise in his field are second to none. Simon is extremely driven and demonstrates his excellence through his ability to follow up, chase leads and produce fantastic sales results. Simon is not only a great estate agent, but a friendly and genuine person. I would highly recommend Simon and will continue to do business with him in future.
07:34 16 Mar 17
Thank you Simon for a professional and seamless purchase of our new home. Very happy with the service and would recommend.
12:55 08 Mar 17
Mr Simon Lee is an amazing real estate agent. I specified what my requirements were and he came up with a property that met all my requirements. He was immensely helpful in addressing all the questions I had for him. Simon is a hard working and an efficient individual, he will work around the clock to be of assistance to you. I was also impressed by his knowledge of the property market, especially in areas such as Bundoora and Heidelberg. I highly recommend him as a fantastic housing agent, who will go the extra mile to secure you a place in an efficient manner.
01:33 06 Mar 17
Thank you to Simon for being an absolute delight to deal with and helping us buy our first home! A very professional service offered by Haim REA.
12:05 17 Nov 16
Simon was very fair and ethical for both the seller and buyer. No pushy tactics, transparent sales process.
01:59 02 Nov 16
My experience with Tom from Haim Real Estate was wonderful when my husband and i purchased a property in Hawthorn East. He was not your typical pushy real estate agent. Thank you Tom for being a pleasure to work with.
12:39 10 Oct 16
This a very good property agency.
03:56 10 Oct 16
Simon Lee is very tuned to client outcomes, and is interested in achieving a mutually agreeable outcome on private sales, which is fair and reasonable. I found Simon to be hard working, easy to deal with and to the point. Terence.
07:17 01 Oct 16
Simon helped us with our 2 houses He is not only friendly but approachable as wellWe rang him at odd hours for our questions. Always ready to help. Will recommend him to my family and friends
10:19 16 Sep 16
Simon Lee recently sold our house for us. We were pleased with how quickly Simon secured a sale. We found Simon to be hard working, very responsive to communicate with and very positive. Many thanks Simon.
22:04 04 Sep 16
Engaged Simon Lee to sell my property. Very Professional Service. Always keep updated and received great results.
Anita De Angelis
11:20 01 Sep 16
SIMON LEE was excellent to deal with. We purchased a property through him recently and were impressed by his patient, supportive and friendly professionalisim. I highly recommend Simon to any vendor and or purchasee. Thankyou Simon for your outstanding work!
11:50 12 Jul 16
We have worked with Simon for 4 years now, throughout this period Simon has always shown professionalism and delivered on sales of our properties.We highly recommend him to all
07:12 11 Jul 16
Simon Lee is a very friendly and responsible real estate agent! He has a fantastic negotiation and communication skills. I would strongly recommend him when comes to selling your property as he will do the job and you get the result without any worries like my case.
03:42 29 Jun 16
Andrew Markowski from Haim Real Estate in Camberwell achieved an outstanding result for my property. Throughout the process he went above and beyond to keep it as painless as possible. He sold it privately in a very short time, without advertising and associated costs and without open for inspections. After the sale, his follow-up in liaising with the conveyancer and the purchaser has been outstanding. It has been an absolute pleasure to deal with Andrew and I could not recommend him more highly.
06:09 14 Jun 16
Tony Pappos and Michael Sambolec have been very helpful with the deal and I highly recommend them for your next sale or purchase. They know how to close the deal to make both vendor and purchaser happy. Keep up the good work guys !
22:23 09 Jun 16
Thanks Tony & HAIM for a job well done. We were not ready to move for 18 months when HAIM contacted us which they accommodated by quickly finding a buyer who was happy with very long settlement (about 18 months). We found their willingness to accommodate our needs and wishes very satisfactory.
10:34 09 Jun 16
Tony Pappos from HAIM is a very nice real estate agent who I can fully trust and do business with. I was looking for a house with few too many criteria and was struggling to find a house that tick all my boxes. Tony listened to me, gave nice advice, confirmed his understanding of my requirements, then next thing - within few weeks found a suitable house for me. The house was within my budget, and with nice block of land. I bought it as a first home few years ago and now is doing well as an investment property. I am currently looking for another property. Tony is my go-to man and he is keeping an eye for me again.He does things in professional manner. He is very good at what he does and is a great human being too.
23:43 08 Jun 16
I dealt with Simon a year ago for a sale of property in Bundoora. I wont go that far to say that he achieved a miracle price but I am satisfactory given the condition of the property. I was very sure that there were not many agents like him with the hard working and can do attitude given my experience with a few other agents in the local area. On top of that is u will never have to chase him up for progress etc he keeps u informed along the way. I am sure every one has that experience when u have to chase someone up for info progress etc even u r paying him to do the job u wont find this with Simon..
23:25 08 Jun 16
Tom Tang and the team at Haim realestate were very professional and diligent. Even though we had purchased the property and Tom was the selling agent, I felt like he was working for us. He was always willing to assist when we wanted to contact the vendor for site access. I would definitely recommend him for anyone looking at selling their property in the Kew / Camberwell area.
08:39 08 Jun 16
We sold our family home of 75 years with Haim Real Estate and found Tom to be nothing short of amazing. Nothing was too much trouble, he got the price we wanted, quickly and with no fuss. He took in account the fact that we were struggling to sell the family home, took baby steps with us and was as excited as us when we sold.
07:40 08 Jun 16
I am happy with the services provided by Haim Real Estate as i recently bought a property with them. They are a small team of dedicated professionals who understand the client's needs and able to address the buyer's questions in full and promptly. They are friendly to deal with and always keep in touch with their clients. I would recommend this agent if you want to list your property for sell.
06:49 08 Jun 16
We sold our property with HAIM Real Estate and can recommend them to any potential buyers/sellers. Tony Pappos was our representative and we found Tony to be a very professional and thorough agent, who gained the best possible price four our property. We will definitely use HAIM and Tony if we are in the market in the future.
09:23 07 Jun 16
I recently purchased a property through Tony at HAIM real estate. Tony was a pleasure to deal with a acted professionally at all times during the transaction.Regards.Nick Johnston
23:37 06 Jun 16
Thanks Simon for selling our home. Simon has done an exceptional job. He worked hard to achieve the results we wanted. Great negotiation skills and paid nothing for advertising. We would strongly recommend Simon Lee to sell your property.
02:16 06 Jun 16
Tony and Tom delivered as promised -price and time frame. Both tough but fair negotiatorswith Hilltop Av., Glen IrisCam Johnstone
13:16 04 Jun 16
Tony from Haim has helped me to sell our property well above the market value to a developer. I am very satisfied with his professional services and honesty, and do what had been promised, with no advertisement fee charge upfront. I strongly recommend Haim if you are selling your property.
12:23 04 Jun 16
Tony and his team are great . They helped me all the way from finding the right property for me and during all negotiations . Tony was there whenever i needed him regardless the time and the day . They have great experience in Real Estate and i could not get any better service anywhere. They followed up and kept in contact even after the settlement ,that was one year ago, until now which is very important for me. I would highly recommend Haim Real Estate when it will be your time to relocate or buy and sell your property.
07:27 03 Jun 16
Having been involved in sales myself for over half a century, I was so impressed by the very professional and honest manner in which Tony handled all my dealings with him. I could not have expected more, and therefore, would thoroughly recommend contacting him to help you too. It would probably the best decision you could ever make. Many thanks once again, your knowledge, hard work and enthusiasm, which is such a rare find these days, is so appreciated. I couldn't be happier with what you achieved.Alan Grove
12:51 02 Jun 16
We’ve been searching for a new property for 5 months and in this time we dealt with many real estate agents. Towards the end we were very frustrated with most of the agents because they weren’t true to their words. The most frustrating ones were the ones that quoted a property for a certain price range but passed in the property at the auction even though the final bid was more than the price range quoted. We finally manage to purchase a property in Canterbury which was managed by Hiam Real Estate. Tony who was managing the property we bought was very professional. He provided us with all the information we required before we inspected the property and when we inspected the property, he was direct and very honest. After we inspected the property we had all the information we needed to make an offer. We ended up buying the property 2 hours later all thanks to Hiam Real Estate for being efficient, honest and professional with their work.
11:22 02 Jun 16
In all my dealings with Tony purchasing properties I have always found him extremely helpful, knowledgeable, courteous, and ethical. I would highly recommend Tony to any prospective buyer or seller in the future.
10:04 02 Jun 16
Tony Pappos from Haim real estate is an enthusiastic and knowledgeable property professional. My experience with Tony and the wider Haim group has always been positive and your intimate knowledge and experience of the local market is assured and a key differentiator. I would be happy to recommend Tony and the team given the opportunity.
05:32 02 Jun 16
I engaged Haim Real Estate in late 2015 to market our property in Hawthorn East. They did a thoroughly professional job and achieved a fantastic result at the high end of our expectations. Tony and Tom were both very communicative about the process and the sales strategy they adopted. I have no hesitations in recommending Haim Real Estate based on my experience.
22:46 07 Oct 19
Well Haim Real Estate its one of the few Real Estates out there that can be recommended. Frank Li is a hell of a hard working guy that from day one till selling the property worked hard, been in touch on daily/weekly basis and bery enthusiastic for the whole process. NO SALE NO FEE inc any advertising its a piece of mind. Most of other agents charge $1,500+ upfront for advertising let alone the 1,8% commission they charge. But Haim its different they think and work different. I have so much to write about them as are countless positive feedback that i have to give but i have to be honest that i found out probably like most agent do is for private sale they agree to sell the house for the price vendor think is worth it but down the road end up selling for less. Its not just Haim i guess its everybody out there cant avoid. When you sign the paper to sell for $950K and the house end up selling for $870 its bit disappointing Thats why i give 4 stars out of 5. Apart from the price setback this guys are good.The price trap itd unavoidable RegardsVinnie
03:45 02 Aug 17
Thanks Jason and Tom for a really positive experience - love our new home!
05:25 14 Jun 16
Mr Tom Tang is polite and professional operator and knows his business very well. One of the experts in for properties in the area. I can definitely do business with them again.
22:07 13 Jun 16
I would like to commend Tony Pappos of Haim Real Estate for the great service that he provided to my family. Firstly, he was able to assist my son and his wife in the purchase of a property in the inner east of Melbourne at a good price and prior to auction (a great result for both purchaser and vendor). Also he assisted my mother in the sale of her unit, with a long term settlement and for an excellent price. In both instances, Tony listened to our requirements and worked hard to assist. I would be happy to recommend Tony and Haim Real Estate to any prospective buyers or sellers.